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Original Question:

I am building a rather large flower pot out of western red cedar for a palm tree. The bottom is 3 ft. across and will have 12 sides measuring 29 inches high each. The sides will lean out at 15 degrees. The width of sides at the bottom measure 10 & 1/2 inches. Is there a mathematical formula to calculate the width of the sides at the top? Also, can the miter angle be pre-determined. I already know that the bevel will be 15 degrees. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Solution:

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Diagram 1 represents a side view of the planter. The angle formed by the intersection of lines G and H is the 15 degrees of lean you require.

  • G & J depth of planter
  • R is radius of bottom
  • U is the radius at the top of the planter
  • S is the width of the side at the bottom
  • T is the width of the side at the top

Diagram 2. The open center represents the bottom of the planter. I have shown only a few sections of the 12 sides (dodecagon). The yellow portion represents the top of the pllnater. Since the sides lean 15 degrees the radius of the top dodecagon will be larger than the bottom.

From the information you gave in your question:
R would be 18 inches (half of the 3ft width of the bottom).
H is 29 inches (height of the sides)

S is the length of the bottom side. It should be 2*18*sin(15) = 9.32 inches (this is shorter than the 10.5 inches you mention in your question). If 10.5 inches is the critical measurement then the width would be twice R where R = (10.5/ 2) * (1 / (sin15) = 20.28 or width of 40.57 inches.

To calculate the width of the sides at the top of the planter (T) we use the formula of:
T = 2 * (R + H * sin 15) * sin 15
T = 2 * (18 + (29 * .2588)) * .2588 = 13.2

Diagram 3.
Diagram3.

This diagram shows the sides of the planter.
The bottom dimension is S and the top is T.
The equation below the diagram shows how to find the angle between J and H.

For the dimensions in this case:

tan x = ((13.2 - 9.32) / 2) / 29
tan x = 0..0669 (use ArcTan or Tan -1 to find x)

x = 3.82 degrees
y = 86.17 degrees

 

Reader's response.

Mr Sommer,

Just wanted to let you know, the calculations you sent me were dead on accurate. I would also like to express my gratitude for your help. I would never have been able to figure this out on my own and would have wasted a good deal of lumber using the trial and error method. I'm about half finished with the flower pot and I will send you a picture of it when finished.

Again, thank you!

--- Wayne

I encourage you to send me your questions via my email address John Sommer. I will include your question and explanation on this site.


 

Resources:

Short Course on Trigonometry:

http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/trig/

Trig tables:

http://www.math2.org/math/trig/tables.htm
These tables can be used to find sin, cos tan of angles.
Can also find angle by finding value of sin, cos or tan then find corresponding value in the table.

 
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